I am joined by Greg Bishop and Jeff Ritzmann and we deal with a question a Pateron, Alfred Tuttle, suggested. "What is the evidence that whatever appears to be behind myriad phenomena (ufo's, sasquatch, fairies, etc) is a non-human intelligence? How do we know it is not a manifestation caused by some kind of collective human unconsciousness? What kinds of questions can we ask to determine which is the case?"

Not an easy question to deal with, we did try on another show, but I felt the viewpoints and Greg and Jeff to be well worth exploring here. Enjoy.

You can find Greg at Radio Misterioso and you can find Jeff at The Numinous Den. 

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