For episode 13 we talk with Jim Pyre. Jim is a Strange Familiars listener and he reached out to us with some of his experiences with the strange and paranormal. We talked about will-o-the-wisps, the fae folk, grassman, hatman and more – including some thoughts about what may be behind some of these phenomena.
We’ll be featuring listener stories on occasion and we would like to do compilation shows featuring multiple listeners – so even if you just have a short encounter, we would love to hear from you.
So this show is in response to a short bit Peter Benard recorded after listening to our June 9th Show on Fiction and the Paranormal. Although he misquoted me a couple of times, overall his points were excellent, so this show is in response to his response. We clear up what he seems to have misunderstood, in case anyone else did as well, and then build off of the points he made. Overall, this show is about how to stay sane, and not get caught up in the beliefs these things create.
You can hear Peter's Bit Below, if you want to listen to that first. It is not necessary, but it will give you a better idea of where we are coming from as we go into this.
And here is the email Peter send us;
"I have a lot of respect for the older episodes of "Where Did The Road Go" but I think Seriah has become too involved with certain other people who are unconsciously intent on creating a new religion of Forteanism in which the majority of logical thought is labeled heresy.
I recorded thsi for PQ Ribber's show, but I don't know when he's going to upload it. My long-winded commentary, interrupted by me taking a picture of a robin and avoiding crazy(er) people.
It's reached the point where Seriah recently expressed GUILT about listening to fiction about horror and wondered openly if horror fiction POLLUTES THE EVIDENCE POOL of paranormal research.
"Pollutes the evidence pool" is to Forteans in 2017 what "Trump and Russia" is to MSNBC and CNN in 2017. It excites the cult members while making everyone else see you as completely batshit crazy.
Keel told me to NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF. Once you start believing anything, then YOU WILL GO INSANE.
Hence, my attraction to Andy Kaufman-style pranking, like Mullah Nasrudin, Robert Anton Wilson, and other heretics before me. To drive you SANE. If pranks make you ANGRY instead of making you LAUGH, then YOU are the one who most needs to be pranked. Pranksters pull pranks TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU BETTER STOP BELIEVING IN SHIT for the sake of your own sanity. If you're wondering if it's heretical to listen to FICTION, then you need to take a break and go listen to ANYTHING else for a while. Take a break. Watch a comedy. Go see a band play, man. Don't make up random fortean rules based on the limited thinking of the people who collect Bigfoot or UFO paraphernalia then beat yourself for sinning against these arbitrary and weird rules.
cough cough Blink 182 cough cough
If your first assumption is not ALWAYS that it was a prank, then you've become a cult member and a believer, and you have no ability to claim being involved in scientific inquiry. All of forteana is just a collection of stories. A collection of stories is not a "pool of evidence," it's FOLKLORE. Horror fiction is also essentially folklore. You ask if folklore is polluting folklore! That's not logical thought. Anyone who has read RAW knows that's only ghost words based on dogma instead of the reality(ies) in front of your nose.
You guys fret about how to be taken more seriously by people outside your little circle. If you ACTUALLY want to understand that, listening to my audio would be a good place to start. Or you can get angry at me for liking and respecting you enough to spill my guts for you. My next appearance in Boston I'm being lumped in with a Simpsons animator and a Grateful Dead t-shirt artist, nothing in my world is changed if you heed my words or not.
In this Roundtable discussion, I am joined by Red Pill Junkie, Timothy Renner, and Joshua Cutchin. We discuss what sound does to us and our environment. We discuss the beeping and buzzing that UFO witnesses describe, the Oz factor, Bi-Aural Mediation, what happens when there is complete Lack of Sound, Music's effects on us, and what ancient cultures may have known about it that we do not... This and much more...
In Episode 12 we present the story of a piece of history nearly lost; we talk about antique photography; we hear about a blind hero of the Civil War who became an amazing horse trainer; we learn the value of research; tell about a trip to the Antiques Roadshow; and talk about some interesting synchronicities…. or maybe just wondrous coincidences.
The song which closes the episode in Hymn to the Angelus II by The Forest Beggars (with Stone Breath) – words by E.A. Poe, music by Forest Beggars. This song is available on CD only – from Virgo, Mater, Domina – a bonus disc which comes with the 2CD and box set version of Stone Breath‘s The Shepherdess and the Bone-White Bird which is available at this link: https://stonebreath.bandcamp.com/album/the-shepherdess-and-the-bone-white-bird
For episode 11 we continue our talk about iron and the supernatural. This episode we focus on the blacksmith and the blacksmith’s role in folklore, magic, and as a liminal figure. We talk with author, powwow practitioner, and blacksmith, Cody Dickerson. We hear another story of a changeling and a boy taught to work iron by the faeries. Finally, we hear some traditional songs about the blacksmith.
The lady stands at her bower door Straight as a willow wand And by her came the coal blacksmith With a hammer in his hand Crying bide, lady bide, There’s nowhere you can hide. This rusty smith will be your love For all your maiden pride.
Well may you dress my lady fair All in your robes of red. Before the morn at this same time I’ll gain your maidenhead.
Away, away you coal blacksmith Would you do me wrong To think to gain my maidenhead That I have kept so long.
I’d rather I were dead and gone And buried in my grave Than a rusty stock of coal blacksmith My maidenhead should have.
The lady she held up her hand And swore upon her soul That she’d not be that blacksmith’s love For a whole chest full of gold.
The blacksmith he held up up his hand And swore upon the Mass: I’ll have you in my bed lady In a half an hour or less.
The lady she became a dove And flew up in the air And he became a cock pigeon And they flew pair and pair. She was woe, he held her so And still he bade her bide. This lusty smith her lover was For all her maiden pride.
The lady she turned into a hare And ran across the plain And he turned into a greyhound dog And chased her down again.
And she became a little mare As dark as the night was black And he became a gilt saddle And rode upon her back.
She became a silken plaid And stretched upon the bed And he became a green covering And gained her maidenhead.
And she became a corpse, A corpse all in the ground, And he became the cold grey clay And smothered her all around.
I discuss with Timothy Renner, his fascinating book, Bigfoot in Pennsylvania. In this book, Tim has collected news clippings from the 1800's and early 1900's that clearly refer to Bigfoot-like creatures. It is interesting to see how this is treated then, and what similarities and differences there are with modern accounts. And there are also some very strange ones mixed in...
In Episode 10 we start our ongoing series discussing iron and the supernatural. With Joshua Cutchin, we talk about iron and the fae folk, changelings, and more – and then we hear some old stories regarding changelings, including one that went horribly wrong.
I am joined by Joshua Cutchin, Adam Sayne, and Timothy Renner for a discussion of Fiction and how it relates to the subjects we study. We discuss fiction as a release valve, as an influence on ideas, as well as how fiction can muddy the waters of what is fact and what is fiction. We get into a lot of stuff in this show, including recommending some excellent fictional podcasts. We also talk everything from Star Trek to Lovecraft. Enjoy.
In this episode we hear about a very old sighting of a possible albatwitch creature (Pennsylvania’s “little bigfoot”) from 1838 – and then we talk with Mark Blankenship who has had some much more recent encounters with creatures in Washington state.